Week 5 · 2025–26 season
Browns
L 17-21 vs Vikings · Oct 5, 2025
Misery Index · Despair
Browns fans losing to Carson Wentz in 2025 and aiming most of the venom squarely at Stefanski.
The emotional rollercoaster
Fan misery across the game window. Up is worse.
What happened
M.Diabate's fumble recovery at the CLE 45 with 14 minutes left handed Cleveland a fourth quarter and a chance, and W.Reichard's wide-right 51-yarder handed them another. Instead, C.Wentz found J.Jefferson for 38, then J.Addison for the go-ahead score with 30 seconds left. Losing to Carson Wentz while still failing to crack 20 points is its own kind of milestone, and the 0-17 first-start streak just keeps breathing.
What fans said
“We just lost to Carson Wentz in 2025”
u/aymitch▲ 497despair
“0-17 in first QB starts since 1999. That’s a full season.”
u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11▲ 233despair
“Still can’t score 20 for fuck sake”
u/Raccoonsrlilbandits▲ 278rage
“Only because of ref ball. That "hold" call on the judkins run play was ridiculous. The refs should be fired.”
u/opossum111▲ 84rage
“The Harris call was a load of shit. There were too many damn “penalties” on us that didn’t have replays”
u/StyxxFireMancer▲ 75rage
“Poor clock management, poor play calling, poor WR play, poor oline. I HATE THIS TEAM.”
u/YoBroMo▲ 69rage
14 more
“Stop blaming the refs. This team is incompetent”
u/Formal-Attention9712▲ 110rage
“Our #1 defense couldn't get to Wentz with a 3rd string oline. WTF?”
u/LotsofSports▲ 103rage
“Kevin just turtled up in the 4th and played not to lose. This loss is on him”
u/Dirtfan69▲ 162rage
“Almost to the point I wonder if he was told to lose. That was atrocious.”
u/Extreme-Broccoli-646▲ 44rage
“We let Wentz drive down the field to win the game. Barely even pressured him in that final drive”
u/central2nowhere▲ 125despair
“Stefanski is to blame. Full stop.”
u/Darth-Bag-Holder▲ 229frustration
“Yeah I don't get why he was acting like we were up 21. WTF. This is all on him.”
u/Iobbywatson▲ 100rage
“3 drives starting at the 40 in the second half and 0 points.”
u/clegolfer92▲ 210frustration
“He’s a shitty coach people.”
u/nickpapa88▲ 44rage
“That’s a hold but whatever the fuck the opposing team does to Myles every weak is legal.”
u/Shawshank27▲ 26rage
“Losing this game in the way they lost it in the fourth quarter is a fireable offense”
u/Buckeye2525▲ 39rage
“Browns defense gave ALL the opportunities in the world to our offense and they didn't do shit with it”
u/Big_Writer2484▲ 65frustration
“the obvious false start on the LT on the game winning TD is peak browns”
u/Scatheli▲ 249frustration
“I think I've seen enough of Stefanski. I'm done”
u/jj44j▲ 49frustration